dalai lama: interdependence. (translated.) what about this concept of interdependence? does it come into science?
ekman: well, it's starting to creep in. (both laugh heartily.)
dalai lama: like a spy.
ekman: like a spy. it has been there in other forms, in terms of what facilitates cooperation rather than competition.
dalai lama: the concept, i think, must be there.
ekman: i want to acknowledge that before i encountered you and your thinking, interdependence was not for me a central concept. my thoughts about this are in a continual state of change---influenced and reacting, trying to preserve the western framework and bring into it things that are not and have not been as emphasized, at least in the area of work that i have done.
dalai lama: (translated.) so then at first, the spy, he just started creeping in. and now he has got to stay there.
ekman: oh. now, he is well recognized.
source: ea, pe & tdl, pp. 126-127.
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